Thursday, February 20, 2025

May I vent a little bit?


I might not write this post if my blog were still public, but writing is how I untangle and figure out what I'm feeling so please bear with me. I have friend who does the same work as me. We used to be so close, never measuring words. We could be emotionally naked with each other and felt safe in that baring. This woman is extraordinarily talented and she's is at the top of the field. She has written collaborations with big names, people you definitely know, books you have probably read, and it was she who actually opened the door to this work for me. She gave my name to an agent for a project that came to her that didn't feel like it was in her wheelhouse, but she knew it would be in mine. She knew I enjoyed engaging with social justice themes, stories of people surviving against the odds, finding purpose in their challenges, that sort of thing. We met when we worked together at a magazine back in the day. I was forty with school kids, she was single and dating in her twenties. Somehow, the difference in our ages and life stages did not matter. She was always a star, and she didn't stay long at the magazine. She left to help found a major lifestyle publication, working with an American icon, which had been her dream since she was a teen. It was she who later introduced me to her agent when I landed my first mainstream book collaboration, and needed representation.

Sadly, our friendship has become strained. Our agent happened to put us both up for a particular book, along with six other writers, and I was the one chosen. It wasn't even a book that my friend was interested in—until she found out she'd been on the list of potential writers and didn't get the nod. She learned this from a careless email chain our agent sent, in which she neglected to delete earlier threads, and also because I blabbed happily about getting the book—which I definitely did want. Until then, we'd had no secrets. But now, my friend was reeling. Her reaction crushed me. Had she got the book, I would have been so happy for her, and I couldn't square that it seemed she could only be happy for me in return if she hadn't been in the mix, too. I know her profile is way bigger than mine, that she is way bolder than I am in the world at large, but we both work hard at what we do, and this book was definitely more in my social justice niche than her celebrity memoir lane, so I couldn't understand why she seemed to respond as if I had taken the book away from her. As if the news that I got the project was a punch in her gut. A betrayal somehow.

We talked it through, ad nauseam, the way we do. Or did. She insisted her disappointment was not about me, that she was angry that our agent had put us up for the same book, as she had specifically asked her never to do that. What the fuck? I did not know that. Anyway, to cut a long story short, our friendship is no longer effortless. There are whole territories of conversation I now have to avoid. She doesn't want to know what books I might be up for, how my work is going, what weeds I might be trying to hack my way through in the narrative. Being able to support each other through these sorts of passages was the lifeblood of our friendship before. The thing is she still reaches out to talk through her work challenges with me, and doesn't seem to notice that I no longer do the same with her. There were just too many times when she would draw a boundary, say, please don't talk to me about that because it's triggering for me. So now, I just listen when she calls needing to talk through some part of her process, or to dissect a problem she's having and brainstorm solutions, but I don't reach out to her in that way anymore, and the result is we talk less and less, and I wonder if what we have can even be called a friendship anymore. 

She is an emotional sort. She feels things deeply, and that serves her in her work. Who am I to tell her that she shouldn't feel what she feels, shouldn't be triggered by what makes her feel insecure, or puts her on unsteady ground. But she is no longer a safe person for me, and I mourn the loss of how we used to be. A part of me just wants to pull away entirely, but I know she's had other close friends pull away from her recently, which tells me she's in a vulnerable place. She's told me the stories, and she's the wronged or misunderstood party in each instance, and I know that for her, this is the whole truth. But in our case, I don't think she fully grasps how much she damaged us when she had such an ongoing negative reaction to something that's now two years in the past, and I can't quite swallow all the things I have been making that mean. Maybe that's the failing on my part.

So we limp along. When I'm feeling less able to deal, and I see her caller ID on my phone, I try to remember an exercise a therapist I used to see once offered me: When you're having difficulty with someone, she said, try to imagine how you would want to be treated if it were your last day on earth, and extend that same grace to the other person. It doesn't mean you become their doormat, she clarified. But it does mean you reach for something deeper inside yourself, and try to be kind.


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  1. What immediately jumps out at me is the age difference -- how very different the younger generations are from us. It seems that we are the last generation to be a certain way -- I'm not in a position to judge, but as a teacher (and nearly the oldest one at my school), I do notice how much more almost fragile they are. I think about it all the time -- at risk of sounding like OUR parents who "walked barefoot through snow to school, etc.) -- and there's a kind of beauty to their willingness to be vulnerable, to LET EVERYONE KNOW IT -- but there's an equal beauty to what I would call resilience and decorum? Heck, I don't know but you've got me thinking...

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    1. Elizabeth, I don't know if it's fragility exactly, but my daughter's generation is definitely more tuned into their emotions, and willing to express them in a fulsome way. But my friend is closer to our generation at this point, we are only 12 years apart, and in her case, I think it's more her personality. So many people who write walk through the world with no skin, naked to the slings and arrows of living, I often feel like that myself, and perhaps she just has an extra share. It is part of what makes her such a gifted artist with the written word, and I suppose there are times when we have to decide if we're going to fold in everything that makes a person who they are, giving space to the hard parts. I'm realizing I haven't decided this yet, because I'm not sure I wont get drained and emptied eventually, and have nothing left to give her, or myself. If that makes sense. Interesting thought about the generations, though. There's something there.

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  2. Synchronicity. The generosity and insight in your post speaks to me and helps me to search for something deeper inside myself and to try to be kind in response to a phone message I received yesterday under similar circumstances. It involves both being kind to that person and not forgetting to be kind to myself as well. I'm going to sit quietly with this and pray for the inner strength to be kind. Thank you so much for taking the time to write out your thoughts.

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    1. am, you touch on something so important here, the need to also be kind to yourself. I suppose that is what my therapist was getting at when she said don't be a doormat. There's a needle to be threaded here. Whatever you decide to do, trust that it will be right and true to your circumstances, because you are, at your core, a kind person.

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  3. I think this may strike a chord with many of us. I feel privileged to be a part of your private group. Thank you for trusting us.

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    1. deb, thank you for being here, for commenting, for having an open heart.

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  4. I guess I'm not that nice. She seems to be centered only on herself and her feelings.

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    1. Kristin, my cousin who is like my sister said the same thing, but then she is fiercely protective of me. I'm trying to remember that these things never arise from just one side. What part have I played in this breakdown? But thanks for the solidarity, friend!

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  5. Your friend sounds like she takes rejection very badly. There is something called rejection sensitive dysphoria and people with it, for whatever reason and I'm sure there are many reasons because nothing is just one thing, overreact a lot to rejection. I'm that way and now that I'm aware of it, it helps me a lot to just be aware. Not everything is about me but I didn't understand that when I was young. Perhaps your friend just hasn't had enough disappointment in her life:)
    I have no idea why she's like this but it's sad that she can't pull her head out of her ass, which is what I have to do on a regular basis. You're grieving the loss of your friendship which is hard and she doesn't seem to understand that either, or maybe she feels the same way.
    Regardless, it's always good when you can write it out and get it out of your head.
    Sending hugs and love.

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    1. Pixie, rejection sensitive dysphoria, interesting! The one thing that has given me pause, and kept me answering the phone, is realizing that she really doesn't seem able to help her reaction to all this, can't seem to just decide to have a different response, and haven't we all been there in some way. But thanks for that insight. I'd never heard of that state, though I'm sure I've witnessed it and maybe even experienced at some point. Love and hugs back to you.

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  6. Friendships can become minefields.
    You are in a difficult spot and I wonder if you feel the need to clear the air or rather settle for a kind, forgiving distance. It's a fine balance and also a dangerous one. To not become the virtuous victim here.
    Time will tell, thank you for sharing this.

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    1. Sabine, we talked about it. We tried to clear the air, which is why she feels completely free to draw her boundaries. But the air isn't really clear, and may never be, in that we can never go back to before what happened. I definitely don't want to be the virtuous victim, or any kind of victim at all. I just want to no longer feel a simmering resentment toward her, which in this very moment of responding to you, I am realizing is the rub. I really resent that she didn't just feel happy for me, but that cannot be changed, so how can I release what is essentially a useless emotion at this point? I may never be able to share freely with her again, but if I don't also resent her, I can more easily move forward in a way that honors our history. As in, not petty. In any event, thank you for your thought provoking comment.

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  7. Feel free to vent! Elizabeth--above--points out something that I, too, have noticed about a few younger folks (I'll be 75 this year). Some have a high level of sensitivity and don't mind laying their hurt feelings on others, even if the target of them (you, in this case) isn't/wasn’t responsible. All well and good to a point. I'm glad they are in touch with their feelings. However, when someone is unable to acknowledge or accept that the feelings of others are just as valid and important as their own, any relationship with them is in danger of becoming a one-way street: they vent, the other listens and is mute. This is, sadly, no longer a reciprocal friendship. Are you repeatedly expected to accept hearing about her “trigger” moments as though it were your responsibility to continually soothe her feelings? Are you supposed to apologize for having won the book contract? I think not. She has--inadvertently or not--closed the door to mutual sharing.
    Certainly, I am not saying that this type of behavior is true of the whole generation, but it occurred with quite a few of my younger colleagues (now retired). In fact, my 41 year-old daughter has (frustratingly) noted this trend in some of her younger colleagues. My response has been like yours. Over time, I tend to pull back and not engage at a deeper level simply because I feel like I'm being used. Like you, I've tried to balance my response by the depth of need the other demonstrates at the time, but there are simply times when you need to husband your resources for yourself and not give all your strength away.
    And then vent…here, when needed. X

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    1. Mary, so many insightful comments here! Thank you for yours, and you're right. At base, the friendship is no longer reciprocal, and eventually a cup that is never refilled will wind up empty, and perhaps it is better to move on gently before the rawness of that. I'm also weighing the truth that some things cannot be solved, and some people will only walk part of the journey with us, and that doesn't mean we can't cherish what they gave to us, and us to them, as our paths diverge. Thank you for being here, and for letting me share. xo

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  8. It reminds me of Stevie Nicks' song Landslide. Relationships slip away (or perhaps rarely, slide back into our lives)...sometimes slowly, sometimes all at once. I admire your respect for her vulnerability; I should probably be more like that too. Perhaps I have been in some relationships, but with others, I have chosen my own mental health, and "turned around" and found my reflection elsewhere.

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    1. db, wow, you stopped me cold with how you put that, and I love it: "turned around and found my reflection elsewhere." Because that's the magic of our closest relationships, isn't it? Our beloveds, the ones in whose company we rest most easily, are those who give us back a reflection of ourselves that is easy to hold, that also somehow feels true. In other words, they see the best in us, and help us see it too. Thank you for this lovely way of framing that, my friend.

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  9. Hours later, on taking time to think about all this, I realize I've been kind to a fault to another person for years, neglecting to be kind to myself in connection with that person. Engaging with that person was not being kind to myself. Disengaging from that person has not been easy, but I know I did the kind thing. The person continues to try to engage me in an obsessive way with intermittent phone calls, texts and letters despite my clear message that I no longer want to engage with her. I've learned so much from this discussion, especially from Sabine's thoughts. Thank you.

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    1. am, I am glad you are finding some clarity. There is certainly gold to be found in these comments!

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  10. It is both sad and infuriating when a friendship morphs in the way you describe. It has happened to me, also, and I mourn the loss of confidence and trust. What to do? I wish I had a good idea. I have just tried to keep a connection at a cool level that my 'friend' can reciprocate. And not blame, because that just bounces back on your own peace of mind. And, I have other friends in whose company I can relax and be myself. As I am sure you do. Glad you trust us enough to 'vent' here and I hope it helps.

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    1. Mary G, I think you are wise, to not blame, to recognize how that undermines our own peace of mind, thank you for that reminder. Yes, we can rest in other friendships, and let those fill our cup. With the comments received, venting here has definitely been helpful. More than I could have imagined.

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  11. How thoughtful of you to look at this carefully instead of just brushing her off. Relationships can ebb and flow as we move through life. Just be yourself and what will be, will be, Rosemarie.

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    1. Ellen D, i appreciate your perspective, to allow things to just take their course, to not need resolution in the here and now. I'm so impatient that way, but you're right, if we allow the ebb and flow, what ebbs may yet flow again. Love that idea.

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  12. Friendships can be so confusing when they start to change, and become less rewarding, because we don't have the kind of boundaries and standards around them that we do in romantic relationships.I have lost a couple of adult friendships and I still grieve those people and the circumstances that lead to us pulling apart. I wonder if you feel like you are somewhat indebted to this person because she helped you along the way? But I don't think you are. It's sounds like she feels, as many people do, that the success of others reduces her own opportunities to be successful. (And just last night I was thinking how the younger generations seem to be much less competitive with one another and are more generous in their support of their friends and colleagues who are given big opportunities , in my experience - I wonder if our ideas about generational differences are more personal and circumstantial and can't really be qualified). Either way, I think this has affected her ability to be a full throttle, open hearted friend to you, which is a sad situation for you both. But dear Rosemarie, I don't think you owe her more support and caregiving when she is not willing to give that back to you. You are one of the most generous hearts I know, and you deserve to be surrounded by friends who are equally generous, supportive, and loving.

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    1. Brittany!!!! how fabulous to see you here! Woman, you made my day! And you know, I am very conscious that I might not be doing this work if she hadn't sent the first project my way. On the other hand, perhaps life unfolds as it's meant to, and the door would have been opened in another way. And all the work that came after is definitely the result of good work on my part building on itself, so there is that. But I do appreciate what she did for me, though I did also send a very major project her way in our time, so you could say we're even. Thank you for helping me to think that through, it was there in the morass for sure. And I lovelovelove seeing you here, and I lovelovelove YOU.

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  13. Not every person who comes into your life will be there forever regardless of how close the friendship was. This is a lesson I've had to learn several times and sometimes it's painful and sometimes you just slowly let go. Are you the only person in your field that she is friends with or on a friendly basis with? Does she always react this way when she loses a bid to another writer she is on good terms with? It strikes me that she has felt like the better of the two of you, that you have achieved your success only because she championed you and losing the book to you felt like a betrayal on your part. That she can't be happy for your win at her loss, nevermind that four other writers also lost, that she can no longer help you work through the knots of that book or the ones that come after, that she asked her agent not to put the two of you up for the same projects (!) tells me that her friendship is/was conditional. I surmise she can no longer help you because you have shown her that you are her equal or you might surpass her. As someone already commented the friendship is no longer reciprocal. She has already stepped back, willing to take but not give, and as a result you have also stepped back. You have two choices it seems to me and they both lead to the same destination. You can be honest and tell her you feel the friendship has become one sided, that you no longer feel that you can reach out to her for help with difficult writing (but mindful of Sabine's advice...don't lay blame, don't become a victim) or you can quietly withdraw not taking her calls if you are busy (not prioritising her) or deflecting that you really don't have the time to help her work out her writing knots at the moment. Maybe she will surprise you if you bare your feelings. It's possible she is oblivious. In any event, the friendship is obviously damaged and it will take effort and time to repair it and only if both of you really want to. You have to decide how much of yourself you are willing to give. But, yeah, it hurts when a close friendship you cherished comes to an end and we grieve.

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    1. ellen, you put your finger on the thing I drew back from articulating clearly, that it seemed that she felt that she was the better of the two of us, and how dare I step in front of her in any way. Of course she has lost books to other writers before, it's the nature of the business, the subject and the writer have to click, have chemistry, hence the interview process in which the subject chooses which writer they want to work with, but I think our close relationship made this loss particularly galling for her. Maybe she does feel that she "made" me, that I wouldn't have been in the mix but for her, but I had six book collaborations under my belt at the point that I got the book that she didn't, so I do think I am responsible for my own successes at this point, grateful as I am for that first referral she made on my behalf. I have referred other people in this work, and I certainly don't expect them to be beholden to me as a result. They have to do the work, or they don't continue to swim. Honestly, I was a bit stunned that she even saw us as being in competition at all. And now I have vented some more, as I suppose I might have needed to. Thank you for creating a space for me to go there.

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  14. Honestly, I think that when a friendship/relationship gets to this point, it's no longer a joy and it may no longer suit either of you. That's the thing about friendship- at some points in our lives we are woven into the lives of others and it is such a sweet, strong, and beautiful thing. And then...not so much. There is no reason to try and sustain that which is no longer real in my opinion. Honor what it was and move on to what comes next. For both of you.
    But that's just my opinion.

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    1. Mary, I do think there is a way to honor what was and move on with grace, and that may well be what is needed here. In any event, having vented in the post, and then some more in these comments, it all feels so much less weighty now, and I suppose that is why we write here, to work out what we feel, to look ourselves plainly in the eye, and really, I am realizing that this is easier to do in a private space, as this blog now is, than in a public one. I am grateful for everyone that has followed me here, and so very glad I have not lost you in the move, my sister spirit. Funny how to love can be so real though we have never met in the flesh. xo

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  15. Codex:
    As an empathetic person you are likely right, there is probably something going on in her life that she cannot and won't share. Not everyone is happy for another person and one has to accept that. The fault lies with your agent who acted in an unprofessional manner, but she is transferring her anger at the agent onto you and you must make that clear. The loss hurts you and I am a big believer in confronting and addressing this with the other person. Friendships are valuable, and like little universes. Then again I am a loyalist, there are times that it works and sad times that it doesn't, so the friendship might not continue the same as it used to.

    I don't think it's the age difference, by forty people are mature adults, but i noticed and experienced in the last few years that social media, Facebook groups is making it too easy to overreact rather than work on the social interaction that your generation had to in order to get along.

    Your therapist is right, you're neither a doormat nor should you be unkind. Walking that middle ground is not always easy, but worth it.

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    1. Codex: thank you for persevering and figuring out a way to be in conversation here. I feel as if the way I will respond to this friendship going forward will be transformed by the experience of engaging with the comments here. I love the idea of friendships as little universes, and they can be of different sizes and spheres (is a universe a sphere? Hmm) and we can learn and grow from them all, even those that spin further away from us in time. And yes, kindness is worth the effort. Always.

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    2. Codex:
      In reading the comments, I think that the decision has been made and emotion has to accept it. There's something a friend said to me a long time ago: there are two types of people in the world; those that drag you down and those that lift you up. It's not just about bringing out the best in the other person, but wanting them to succeed and be well. Personally I don't understand people like your friend's recent behavior; you don't owe her forever.

      Maybe I should have used galaxies as a better analogy; a constant push pull of gravity. Too much and you collide, too little and you spin apart.

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  16. She sounds terribly insecure. You describe her as a star, with a bigger profile than yours and bolder than you. The fact that she doesn't want your agent to put you both up for the same book is very telling. If true, she's sounds afraid of competing against you and not coming in first.
    Just my two cents.

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    1. Barbara, I suppose on some level we're all insecure in some areas, and this might be hers. I think she was afraid direct competition might undermine our friendship, and maybe that was self-awareness on her part, because she wasn't wrong. But this exercise of writing about it, and engaging in conversation around it in what I take to be a safe space, has oddly helped me to release a lot of my own agita around what happened. I feel more able to move forward with an acceptance of what is, embracing the shape of things as they are, and allowing love in whatever way that finds expression, if that makes sense. Thanks for being here around the fire, and sharing your insight.

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  17. I hate to say it, but sometimes relationships run their course. It sounds patently unfair and unreasonable that this woman continues to unburden herself to you while not allowing you any similar expression. Perhaps time will heal this wound, but I guess the question is, how much do you invest in the interim, while you're waiting for things to be better?

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    1. You know, Steve, it may just be as simple as you say. And there's no need to invest it with lots of sturm and drang, right? I am feeling a lot more equanimity now. I think maybe I really did just need to vent.

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